I like the dragon sleeper and torture rack. It lets me put pressure on my opponents neck and back while exposing their torso. I can knee, punch and elbow their chest and stomach, I can twist and pinch his nipples, and I can grab his dick and balls and torture those two.
my preference with a crab is once it's fully locked on, i pivot back & forth to really work his lower back. it must be very effective judging from his quick submissions, which i somehow neglected to hear.
Love to be held in a long body scissors with my opponent wrapped around me like an anaconda. Hold it for a long time with lots of verbal! if he can. I don’t go down easy!
Full nelson is one of my favorites. I love to hold my opponent in this hold for long. Having him on his back I can squeeze my legs around him at the same time. Or even better have him under me struggling while I enjoy every movement of his body.
Being an heel, I enjoy any nerve/claw hold. Swift severe pain. Of course, I enjoy applying the sleeper hold. There’s never a question or doubt who’s the winner with a completed sleeper. I’ve always thought it was the most humiliating hold ever.
If I am in a competitive, or semi-competitive match, as opposed to an erotic roll-around, my goto hold to actually get a submission is the one in pic attached - this was me submitting a heavier and stronger oponent, I am always rather pleased with myself if I managed to do that. BTW, this was taken at one of the Grapevine group meetings back in 2023 (time flys). My introduction to this pastime was through Grapevine wrestling meetngs at the Clarence hotel in Bedford (UK) - anyone here remember?
I think this hold is called a keylock? Its so easy to apply and nearly always works in my experience so I tend to use it far too often - I think wrestling is more interesting if you can learn a good variety of holds but I find them so difficult to remember, espeicially in the heat of the moment. I need more practice!
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Me too! The first time I shot my load wrestling was holding a guy down in this position. I was 16 and clearly stronger. Both fully dressed just wrestling around. I wasn’t sure what had happened at first. I never told him what happened either. But it was great!
Yes, standing full nelson, bend your knees, arch your back, take your man with you, his feet leaving the mat.
His head should be tucked down by your clasping the back of his skull, forcing him into an auto choke.
Sam, I dated a guy for who that swinging full nelson was "his thing." Generally this happened after a long period of rough housing foreplay, we'd play until one of us was ready to shoot, and then lay back a moment, so he was well primed. He'd become noisy and shoot his load once his feet left the floor.
Please keep in mind, that if a sleeper hold was really done for 2 or 3 minutes it would be extremely dangerous. In "pro" wrestling much of the action is simulated and the guy is not really put out but acts as if he is put out. The acting is of excellent quality but a real sleeper hold take just seconds to [put a person completely out. Note that in UFC where chokes are real the guy goes out in seconds if he does not tap.
Guys in the UFC typically tap immediately. But the potential for danger is one reason for the referee. That's one hold that should be avoided otherwise.
definitely the spadle but takes a bit to set up... once it is I own the guy and he's going nowhere... Great thing about it is if he struggles I just tighten it up until he starts to suffer and realizes theres no escape and submits.... then the slow torture of fine tuning and tightening the hold begins... tightening and releasing until the guy is spent and owned and begging to be let go. Even more fun if I can trap both arms crucifix style so he has no limbs to defend so I can play at will... rub or slap his head, cover his mouth, spank him a bit to add to the humiliation of his defeat.
If this hold is applied right there is no good counter once its locked in tight... Its a great hold but difficult to set up to get... worth every bit of the chess match though if you can get it locked in and agonizing when applied and tightened...
Hi Dan, have not texted you in quite awhile, hope we can get together, wrestle, maybe gutpunch me, you use to talk to me about the outdoors alot, doing different things outdoors as well
Yes, it was from me, and I think you might remember CTR Seattle, WA, and Earl Spruceman, when you were in VA or close to it, yes I am jimmyterrific and would luv to get to meet you if possible this year
Effective, but very application dependent e.g. exposed muscle bellies and typically undeveloped. In addition, a strong grip by the person applying the hold.
Christophe (3)
3 days agoMy favorite holds are: balls grabing and balls pounching 💪🏻
AN53566 (5)
5 days agoI like the dragon sleeper and torture rack. It lets me put pressure on my opponents neck and back while exposing their torso. I can knee, punch and elbow their chest and stomach, I can twist and pinch his nipples, and I can grab his dick and balls and torture those two.
Tapout15 (0)
11/16/2024 3:52 PMFull Boston Crab Lion Tamer
Tattooed menace (56 )
8/28/2024 7:47 PMI love locking my jobbers in a bouncing Boston crab. Pushing them to their limits!
IKOYOU (3 )
8/29/2024 12:21 AM(In reply to this)
my preference with a crab is once it's fully locked on, i pivot back & forth to really work his lower back. it must be very effective judging from his quick submissions, which i somehow neglected to hear.
Tattooed menace (56 )
8/29/2024 12:53 AM(In reply to this)
Grrr we need a match against each other!
IKOYOU (3 )
8/29/2024 2:36 AM(In reply to this)
i would NOT be the receiver in this match, boy!
Tattooed menace (56 )
8/30/2024 12:03 AM(In reply to this)
That’s what you think!! Hope to prove you wrong one of these days!
IKOYOU (3 )
8/30/2024 1:11 AM(In reply to this)
in your wettest dreams, boy.
BigGeorge888 (0)
8/28/2024 10:14 PM(In reply to this)
Yes please
Chiitaljock (93)
8/28/2024 1:11 PMLove to be held in a long body scissors with my opponent wrapped around me like an anaconda. Hold it for a long time with lots of verbal! if he can. I don’t go down easy!
Petitjudoka (0 )
8/28/2024 1:41 AMQuelqu’un en france ?
didou (9)
8/28/2024 8:44 AM(In reply to this)
Salut je suis en France
Jarek (3)
8/27/2024 3:53 PMFull nelson is one of my favorites. I love to hold my opponent in this hold for long. Having him on his back I can squeeze my legs around him at the same time. Or even better have him under me struggling while I enjoy every movement of his body.
j50yomuscle (2)
8/29/2024 10:33 PM(In reply to this)
I love holding a guy like this too!
calwrestler (141)
1/08/2024 3:47 PMHammerlock with a one arm rear choke.
Headscissors with a Hammerlock.
Both lead to subs
Sergio-bodybuildermuscle (2 )
1/08/2024 4:38 PM(In reply to this)
Hammerlock is a very good hold to control and slowly weaken the shoulder
mbowen67 (0)
9/21/2023 1:43 PMfujiwara armbar
AtlantaSleeper (14)
9/20/2023 2:36 PMBeing an heel, I enjoy any nerve/claw hold. Swift severe pain. Of course, I enjoy applying the sleeper hold. There’s never a question or doubt who’s the winner with a completed sleeper. I’ve always thought it was the most humiliating hold ever.
TennisDude216 (11)
12/10/2023 1:38 AM(In reply to this)
What kind of claw/nerveholds do you prefer to use on your poor humiliated jobbers...?
love life (1)
9/19/2023 4:01 PMdoes any one have foto of the barefoot arm stretch hold bein put on thats my fav hold
love life (1)
9/19/2023 3:56 PMi forgot how this hold is put on but its the barefoot arm stertch hold
mbowen67 (0)
9/19/2023 3:49 PMwhatever works
Stmbt797 (2)
8/31/2023 5:14 AMA hard belly splash and then clamp on a tight grapevine
devonwrestler (28 )
11/06/2022 1:41 PMIf I am in a competitive, or semi-competitive match, as opposed to an erotic roll-around, my goto hold to actually get a submission is the one in pic attached - this was me submitting a heavier and stronger oponent, I am always rather pleased with myself if I managed to do that. BTW, this was taken at one of the Grapevine group meetings back in 2023 (time flys). My introduction to this pastime was through Grapevine wrestling meetngs at the Clarence hotel in Bedford (UK) - anyone here remember?
I think this hold is called a keylock? Its so easy to apply and nearly always works in my experience so I tend to use it far too often - I think wrestling is more interesting if you can learn a good variety of holds but I find them so difficult to remember, espeicially in the heat of the moment. I need more practice! Please log in to view gallery photos.
maturegrapplerdude (6)
9/20/2023 10:20 PM(In reply to this)
The keylock is illegal in amateur wrestling but I guess in submission, anything goes.
Just Dan (8)
10/22/2022 1:03 PMI like the full nelson. It puts my opponent in a very compromising position with me on top of him.
j50yomuscle (2)
9/19/2023 12:36 PM(In reply to this)
Me too! The first time I shot my load wrestling was holding a guy down in this position. I was 16 and clearly stronger. Both fully dressed just wrestling around. I wasn’t sure what had happened at first. I never told him what happened either. But it was great!
fsmeets60 (14)
9/17/2023 5:11 PM(In reply to this)
True, like a bearhug..especially in oil ?..
FightGames (27 )
10/23/2022 9:14 AM(In reply to this)
in wich way is it compromising?
IKOYOU (3 )
10/23/2022 3:23 PM(In reply to this)
your opponent is face down, you're on his back with a hold locked on that he cant break. i love to bang a guy with a full nelson clamped on him.
Mighty Mongo (46)
9/19/2023 5:07 PM(In reply to this)
Using this and grapevine their legs give you a lot of control. A rear naked choke is good to use for this as well.
Gregorio2 (10)
9/18/2023 10:23 PM(In reply to this)
I've done this with a full nelson driving my jobber bud face first into bed pillows, which produced a happy experience for both of us.
IKOYOU (3 )
9/19/2023 1:59 AM(In reply to this)
same here. it's the ultimate dominance for both parties.
buddystl (44 )
9/18/2023 8:08 AM(In reply to this)
I've offered
Sergio-bodybuildermuscle (2 )
8/15/2022 3:51 PMAbs stretch and bodyslam
Joe joe (0)
8/14/2022 5:32 PMAbdominal Stretch is the best
sjwrestle (2)
8/14/2022 8:25 PM(In reply to this)
The abdominal stretch when locked in well, gives you great access to your opponents body, he he.
Sergio-bodybuildermuscle (2 )
8/16/2022 7:07 AM(In reply to this)
It works only if you are heavier and taller than your opponent
sjwrestle (2)
8/16/2022 10:54 AM(In reply to this)
That’s true but man it’s fun controlling a smaller guy.
Joe joe (0)
8/15/2022 1:49 PM(In reply to this)
Great access to greatly punish the fighting partner 😄
IKOYOU (3 )
8/14/2022 5:54 PM(In reply to this)
That’s a rare one. I haven’t seen it used on tv pro wrestling in many years.
Joe joe (0)
8/15/2022 1:48 PM(In reply to this)
Yeah,also in this group, i've never seem this submission. What a rare move.
BJJWrestlerLasVegas (14)
8/11/2022 9:46 AMarm triangle, north south choke, rear naked choke, electric chair
BJJWrestlerLasVegas (14)
8/14/2022 6:25 PM(In reply to this)
JobberOtter (14 )
8/14/2022 7:10 PM(In reply to this)
Wow that looks painful
Wrestletowrestle (29)
8/12/2022 2:55 AM(In reply to this)
What is electric chair?
IKOYOU (3 )
8/09/2022 1:00 PMSwinging full nelson knockout.
Gregorio2 (10)
10/23/2022 8:04 AM(In reply to this)
Yes, standing full nelson, bend your knees, arch your back, take your man with you, his feet leaving the mat.
His head should be tucked down by your clasping the back of his skull, forcing him into an auto choke.
sdj58 (29 )
8/12/2022 5:16 AM(In reply to this)
Sign me up for minutes upon minutes of that!
Gregorio2 (10)
12/07/2023 7:50 AM(In reply to this)
Sam, I dated a guy for who that swinging full nelson was "his thing." Generally this happened after a long period of rough housing foreplay, we'd play until one of us was ready to shoot, and then lay back a moment, so he was well primed. He'd become noisy and shoot his load once his feet left the floor.
Twister81 (4)
8/09/2022 5:21 PM(In reply to this)
what's that look like?
IKOYOU (3 )
8/09/2022 8:37 PM(In reply to this)
like this. only when i apply it, i swing the guy for 2 or 3 minutes, not 2 or 3 seconds, until he's out cold, not just groggy.
BJJWrestlerLasVegas (14)
10/23/2022 10:26 AM(In reply to this)
Please keep in mind, that if a sleeper hold was really done for 2 or 3 minutes it would be extremely dangerous. In "pro" wrestling much of the action is simulated and the guy is not really put out but acts as if he is put out. The acting is of excellent quality but a real sleeper hold take just seconds to [put a person completely out. Note that in UFC where chokes are real the guy goes out in seconds if he does not tap.
Juggernaut (0)
9/17/2023 8:02 PM(In reply to this)
Guys in the UFC typically tap immediately. But the potential for danger is one reason for the referee. That's one hold that should be avoided otherwise.
Newyearkid71 (3)
8/11/2022 12:13 AM(In reply to this)
Would love to experience that
IKOYOU (3 )
8/11/2022 1:03 AM(In reply to this)
it's a lot more painful than you can imagine. but i'd be glad to demonstrated it on you.
JobberOtter (14 )
8/11/2022 1:35 AM(In reply to this)
Oooo I wanna watch
reneesouis (6)
8/08/2022 7:18 PMI love the omnoplata applied to the arm
Mighty Mongo (46)
8/07/2022 4:35 PMBearhug or Full Nelson/Bodyscissor Combo
Tanglerman1 (4)
8/06/2022 2:40 PMdefinitely the spadle but takes a bit to set up... once it is I own the guy and he's going nowhere... Great thing about it is if he struggles I just tighten it up until he starts to suffer and realizes theres no escape and submits.... then the slow torture of fine tuning and tightening the hold begins... tightening and releasing until the guy is spent and owned and begging to be let go. Even more fun if I can trap both arms crucifix style so he has no limbs to defend so I can play at will... rub or slap his head, cover his mouth, spank him a bit to add to the humiliation of his defeat.
DarkFighter001 (0)
8/08/2022 2:40 AM(In reply to this)
Man...I was trapped in a crucifix hold...that is a very hard hold to get out of especially in an erotic wrestling match 😅
Tanglerman1 (4)
8/08/2022 3:13 AM(In reply to this)
If this hold is applied right there is no good counter once its locked in tight... Its a great hold but difficult to set up to get... worth every bit of the chess match though if you can get it locked in and agonizing when applied and tightened...
submissive50uk (8)
8/07/2022 5:24 AM(In reply to this)
Al;ways wanted to experience that great pin see if I can move a little without being totally pinned!
TennisDude216 (11)
2/26/2022 6:38 AMMy go-to 'hold' would be Camel Clutch or Boston Crab (but usually I'm the one being pinned/submitting)...
luckyone840 (26 )
2/24/2022 9:18 AMMine is frontal headscissor with him facing me, I am holding my opponents hands and i constrict my inner thighs on his neck to slowly submit him!
jimmyterrific (56)
2/26/2022 6:58 AM(In reply to this)
Would luv for you to do that to me
Just Dan (8)
11/21/2021 5:14 PMI'm amazed at the number of holds I don't know.
jimmyterrific (56)
2/25/2022 5:17 AM(In reply to this)
Hi Dan, have not texted you in quite awhile, hope we can get together, wrestle, maybe gutpunch me, you use to talk to me about the outdoors alot, doing different things outdoors as well
Just Dan (8)
2/26/2022 1:37 PM(In reply to this)
Hi Jimmy, was your comment for me? I think it was since I have a lot of interest in the outdoors.
I hope things are well. I'd love to get together if we possibly could.
Dan
jimmyterrific (56)
2/27/2022 2:57 AM(In reply to this)
Yes, it was from me, and I think you might remember CTR Seattle, WA, and Earl Spruceman, when you were in VA or close to it, yes I am jimmyterrific and would luv to get to meet you if possible this year
sfbeef (85)
10/27/2021 12:41 AMface claw.
runner up: guillotine
nwgamuscle (54)
11/21/2021 12:28 PM(In reply to this)
Any kind of claw hold is a favorite.
Juggernaut (0)
8/31/2023 4:31 AM(In reply to this)
Effective, but very application dependent e.g. exposed muscle bellies and typically undeveloped. In addition, a strong grip by the person applying the hold.
jimmyterrific (56)
2/25/2022 5:22 AM(In reply to this)
How abou the cradel which rely strains your abs, alsothe spladel
DarkFighter001 (0)
10/27/2021 12:24 AMBearhugs and body scissors...any holds that squeezes and stretching out the body 😉
BJJWrestlerLasVegas (14)
10/26/2021 5:18 AMArm Triangle
bobster (34)
10/25/2021 8:55 PMI try to use a form of headlock but use my legs instead of my arms.
BigGeorge888 (0)
10/07/2021 1:25 AMBoston Crab, Torture Rack and I wish I could use my favorite Romero/Ceiling Hold
Scoobs2003 (0)
9/11/2021 11:06 AMTriangle choke to use, Boston Crab to have used on me
jimmyterrific (56)
2/25/2022 5:19 AM(In reply to this)
Body triangle with rear naked choke
bostoncrab83 (0)
4/29/2021 7:23 PMEither the Boston crab or reverse headscissor
JobberOtter (14 )
4/29/2021 12:11 PMI was wondering the same thing you can’t do a triangle choke and a bodyscissors that doesn’t make sense
Juggernaut (0)
9/17/2023 7:41 PM(In reply to this)
That puts him in good company. Although he did correct it.
HairyNerdIt (14 )
4/29/2021 12:14 PM(In reply to this)
I meant read naked choke I did an error
JobberOtter (14 )
4/29/2021 5:00 PM(In reply to this)
Ah okay lol! 😂
reneesouis (6)
4/28/2021 4:29 PMI agree how can your legs be in two places at once for triangle and body scissors????
wrestlme37 (23)
4/28/2021 11:53 AMHalf nelson and Chicken wing combo
maturegrapplerdude (6)
8/11/2022 7:01 AM(In reply to this)
Fuck yes man! Bring on the pin pain.
sleepforme (6 )
4/28/2021 2:50 AMNot sure I follow how a triangle choke and bodyscissors go together?
HairyNerdIt (14 )
4/26/2021 10:25 AMWell i wanted to ask to you fighters :" which is your favorite hold to use to make your opponent submit? And why?"
For me is a triangle choke with bodyscissor, I think it's a great combination of power and technique and a great way to submit your opponent!
HairyNerdIt (14 )
4/29/2021 12:13 PM(In reply to this)
I did an error I mean read naked choke not the triangle choke 😂